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Kevin Amolsch

Kevin Amolsch has been a guest on Collecting Keys, the real estate investing podcast hosted by Mike DeHaan, Dan Austin and Dylan Koch.

Creative Financing Before It Was Cool with Kevin Amolsch

Episode 171 · July 3, 2023 · 46 min

Kevin Amolsch of Pine Financial Group walks through two decades in real estate, starting with lease option sandwiches in 2001, losing most of a near-60-door portfolio during 2006-2008, and rebuilding while starting a hard money lending business. He explains how his lending company evolved from brokering a single $100,000 private loan into four mortgage funds with about $140 million under management, the difference between Reg D and Reg A offerings, and the specific risks of gap funding for passive lenders.

Key takeaways

  • Kevin's niche was the lease option sandwich — buying on a lease option and reselling to a tenant buyer — which worked on pretty homes with no equity and was easy for sellers to understand. It's harder now because the SAFE Act added licensing and ability-to-repay rules, and the dry double close largely disappeared.
  • When he was losing everything in 2006-2008, he prioritized staying current with his lease option sellers over his bank loans, doing deeds in lieu and short sales on the ~8 financed properties and renegotiating option price and rent on his 40-plus lease options. His portfolio dropped from almost 60 doors to about 20, and he rebuilt by bringing in partners to sign on debt in 2009-2010.
  • His first lending deal came from standing up at a real estate meeting with $100,000 of one private investor's money — four points origination, 15% interest, two points to the investor — netting $2,000. He later restructured to keep all the points, charge servicing fees, and eventually launch funds to solve investor problems around entry size, diversification and liquidity.
  • Reg D is a private placement exemption (advertising only allowed to accredited investors under 506c), while Reg A allows public advertising of a stated return to non-accredited investors but requires audited financials and twice-yearly reporting. Even with an approved Reg A, Texas requires selling the security through a broker dealer.

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