Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast

Justin Dossey

Justin Dossey has been a guest on Collecting Keys, the real estate investing podcast hosted by Mike DeHaan, Dan Austin and Dylan Koch.

Building Businesses To Solve Your Own Problems With Justin Dossey

Episode 100 · January 16, 2023 · 1 hr 0 min

Justin Dossey, CEO of Call Porter and Ballpoint Marketing, explains how both businesses grew out of problems he and his brother Ryan hit running their own wholesaling operation: missed seller calls and mail that got thrown out. He walks through how an answering service and a dedicated lead manager fit into an investor's workflow, why handwritten first-class letters get opened more often than presorted mail, and what direct mail actually costs per acquisition.

Key takeaways

  • Call Porter's agents answer inbound seller calls as the investor's receptionist, build rapport, take property notes and book appointments; Justin says roughly 30% of direct mail calls are angry or bizarre, and keeping those off acquisitions reps protects their productivity.
  • A newer lead management add-on has agents work leads inside REsimple for about 20 hours a month at $500 (beta pricing, expected to roughly double). Justin's rule: every lead in the CRM must have a next action assigned, or it gets forgotten.
  • Presorted direct mail gets delivered lumped in with junk mail on one or two set days a week, so handwritten letters with real first-class stamps and no company name on the envelope get opened far more often. Ballpoint tries to time drops a day or two before the local junk mail day.
  • Response rates on handwritten letters run about 1-2%, translating to roughly $2,500-$3,500 cost per acquisition nationwide. Mike and Dan's historical cost was around $3,200 with an average fee of $23,500.

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